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[Locked] Good Small Footprint Window Manager?
LaneLester English 7 fabounet [Read]
03 January 2011 à 14:51

LaneLester, Wednesday 22 December 2010 à 13:41


Subscription date : 30 November 2010
Messages : 31
One of the OS installations I like to use is Ubuntu with OpenBox as the WM instead of Gnome, KDE, XFCE, or others. I'm using gdm for the desktop manager and compiz to get OpenGL. I tried leaving OpenBox out completely, but I couldn't make that work.

I've come to appreciate Cairo-Dock very much, but I'm not getting full usage with OpenBox as the WM.

The Folder applet doesn't work. It seems to, but when I click on a folder icon in the display it pops up, the icon is animated but nothing opens.

The Application Menu applet doesn't work, presumably because there is no application.menu file created by OpenBox. There is a folder, /usr/share/applications, that has "shortcut" files for all Ubuntu-installed applications, but there does not seem to be a Cairo applet for that folder.

So my question for this thread is, is there another small-footprint WM I can use in place of OpenBox that will give me full functionality with Cairo? Options would include IceWM, Fluxbox, FVWM, and blackbox, but I don't know if any of them play well with Cairo.

Lane

matttbe, Wednesday 22 December 2010 à 19:00


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Cairo-Dock should work with the main DE (Gnome, KDE and XFCE) and their WM (Metacity/Mutter/Compiz, Kwin and XFWM).
"Application Menu" uses 'xdg' specifications and some other applets uses GVFS (Shortcuts, etc.).

BTW Cairo-Dock should work fine with all WM. A Window Manager should only manage the frame and the placement of all your windows.

Guest, Wednesday 22 December 2010 à 23:30

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It's really nice how if you forget the above, you lose the message you composed.

Thanks for the reply, mattbe. I'll skip re-typing my response, but I appreciate your help.

Lane

fabounet, Thursday 23 December 2010 à 14:43


Subscription date : 30 November 2007
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I think it's more a problem with gvfs, do you have gvfs running ?
you can try this:
cairo-dock -e gnome
it will force the dock to consider you are on Gnome.

fabounet, Thursday 23 December 2010 à 14:45


Subscription date : 30 November 2007
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I think it's more a problem with gvfs, do you have gvfs running ? if so, you can configure with which application open a folder (you can do this in Nautilus for instance, or through gconf-editor maybe).
is there any trace in the terminal ?
maybe you can try this:
cairo-dock -e gnome
it will force the dock to consider you are on Gnome.

LaneLester, Thursday 23 December 2010 à 23:22


Subscription date : 30 November 2010
Messages : 31
fabounet, before I saw your post I posted an inquiry on the Ubuntu forums. A reply led me to a thread on the CrunchBang forums (http://goo.gl/1KAFU) that described how to use Compiz as the only window manager along with a dock of your choice.

The instructions involve using lxpanel until you get everything going right.

I was thinking I'd use Docky instead of Cairo, but Docky was just too dinky. To use AWN I would have to install all of Gnome, which I wanted to avoid.

I have a fresh install of the Ubuntu Minimal CD. After installing it I ran this script:
#!/bin/sh
# After the base system is installed, set root pw, log in and use nano to uncomment repositories.
# Additional steps: http://goo.gl/1KAFU
# Execute this script.
# Install nvidia-current after reboot.
# Copy over working xorg.conf (/mnt/arc/ZipLinux/MinimalCD/).
apt-get update
apt-get install xorg xterm gdm lxpanel compiz fusion-icon compizconfig-settings-manager cairo-dock conky menu firefox checkgmail emelfm2 htop leafpad feh synaptic --no-install-recommends
service gdm start


I'm very pleased with my Compiz/Cairo system. Thanks to everyone who provided suggestions.

Lane

LaneLester, Thursday 23 December 2010 à 23:35


Subscription date : 30 November 2010
Messages : 31
I tried adding the "-e gnome" to the cairo command in /usr/local/start-fusion.sh:
#!/bin/bash
compiz ccp &
# emerald & #edit to add: this is optional, you don't need emerald at all.
fusion-icon &
/opt/ChangeWallpaper.sh &
# lxpanel #or whatever panel you prefer, or no panel if you are brave
cairo-dock -o -e gnome


But the following still don't work:
  • Shortcuts
  • Applications Menu
  • Folder
  • Stack

I can live without them OK, so it's not a big problem.

Next Day: I installed Thunar so I could "drag" items to the above applets, but it didn't work.

Lane

fabounet, Monday 03 January 2011 à 14:51


Subscription date : 30 November 2007
Messages : 17118
those applets all need a VFS, that is to say a way to access files.
the dock can use the vfs of Gnome and Xfce (gvfs or thunar-vfs), so I guess you need one of them.

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[Locked] Good Small Footprint Window Manager?
LaneLester English 7 fabounet [Read]
03 January 2011 à 14:51


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