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[Locked] Install Glx Cairo Dock without Zeitgeist?
Guest 12 alless [Read]
21 May 2013 à 18:23

Guest, Saturday 21 April 2012 à 18:41

I love Glx Cairo Dock - it's one of my very favourite programs ever.

After a long hard effort I have become fed up with Unity/Ubuntu and so have installed Lubuntu on my laptop to try it. The first thing I did was launch Synaptic to install Glx Dock, but I was horrified to see that it was also going to install Zeitgeist. Argh! I dislike Zeitgeist and do not want it. Much as I regret to say it, however much I love Glx Dock, Zeitgeist would be a deal breaker for me and I would have to look at other docks, which I do not want to do. So I'd be very grateful for any help - is it possible to install Glx Dock without installing any Unity / Zeitgeist stuff?

SQP, Saturday 21 April 2012 à 20:20


Subscription date : 03 July 2010
Messages : 1081
Zeitgeist is only required for the recent events plug-in, so it can be removed safely.

if you have trouble with cairo-dock being removed with zeitgeist, use those commands to reinstall it :

Get the list of packages that will be installed with the dock
echo n | apt-get install cairo-dock


Select those you want and add them to the next line
apt-get install --no-install-recommends cairo-dock

matttbe, Saturday 21 April 2012 à 22:27


Subscription date : 24 January 2009
Messages : 12573
Recent-events applet is linked to Zeitgeist libraries and this is why we have to install Zeitgeist with this cairo-dock-plug-ins package.
But you can compile the dock without this plug-in or disable Zeitgeist and remove this file: /usr/lib/cairo-dock/libcd-Recent-Events.so

SQP, Saturday 21 April 2012 à 23:40


Subscription date : 03 July 2010
Messages : 1081
for me it's only a packaging problem, and a user shouldn't be forced to install manually just because he don't need a single plug-in, and that plug-in force him to install another daemon to its system.

I hope my solution works for an easy way to answer that problem.

this problem don't exist with the debian way of packaging (even if it has other drawbacks)

matttbe, Sunday 22 April 2012 à 09:06


Subscription date : 24 January 2009
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Yes but there are a lot of problems with these packages... and it's really not easy to maintain all these packages! (more than 30...)
This package is only split on Debian and I think people with such needs are able to find another solution (it's easy to compile the cairo-dock ).
They are less than 1% of our users and I prefer to maintain the current packages than having problems for all users like on Debian. It already takes some time and I don't want to lose more time and have more possibility to have problems

Guest, Monday 23 April 2012 à 08:53

Thank you both for the most helpful replies!

SQP - Thank you! I ran
echo n | apt-get install cairo-dock
but didn't really understand the output. There was a long list of library and other files that, to me, didn't look related to cairo-dock. The output started with
cairo-dock is already the newest version.
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
libmarblewidget13 libkldap4 libqca2 dvgrab libtheora-bin...

and then a load more filenames.
Perhaps I should look at moving to Debian? Is it much more difficult than Ubuntu for a not too tech savvy user like me?

matttbe - I appreciate how much work there must be and I thank you for it

matttbe, Monday 23 April 2012 à 12:11


Subscription date : 24 January 2009
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Perhaps I should look at moving to Debian? Is it much more difficult than Ubuntu for a not too tech savvy user like me?
I don't think it's a good solution because I advise Debian user against installing Cairo-Dock packages from official Debian repos because we already had some problems due to these packages (and this is why we maintain our own Debian repos...)

If you just want to remove Zeitgeist, I think the best solution is to compile the dock without this plug-in or disable Zeitgeist and remove this file: /usr/lib/cairo-dock/libcd-Recent-Events.so

fabounet, Wednesday 25 April 2012 à 12:36


Subscription date : 30 November 2007
Messages : 17118
the dock is linked to libzeitgeist, not to Zeitgeist !
which means that Zeitgeist (the daemon that collects data) is not required, and the applet (if you ever try to run it) will simply tell you that Zeitgeist is not present

in conclusion, you can safely install the dock and its dependancies (without the recommends, I guess that Zeitgeist is indeed listed as "recommends" in the cairo-dock package)

matttbe, Wednesday 25 April 2012 à 12:42


Subscription date : 24 January 2009
Messages : 12573
(I guess that Zeitgeist is indeed listed as "recommends" in the cairo-dock package)
No because 'zeitgeist' package is recommended by 'libzeitgeist-1.0-1'
Thank you for the tip

Guest, Wednesday 25 April 2012 à 15:08

Ah! That is good news. Thank you all again.

alless, Tuesday 21 May 2013 à 17:34


Subscription date : 18 May 2013
Messages : 5
hi!

how to disable zeitgeist? which dependencies should I remove?

thanks

matttbe, Tuesday 21 May 2013 à 18:11


Subscription date : 24 January 2009
Messages : 12573
I think you can install the dock with this command:
sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends cairo-dock cairo-dock-plug-ins


But if you just want to disable zeitgeist, I think you can simply remove this package zeitgeist-core:
sudo apt-get purge zeitgeist-core

alless, Tuesday 21 May 2013 à 18:23


Subscription date : 18 May 2013
Messages : 5
Yeah, I have it installed and I want just remove zeitgeist...as I am a dummy, i want to do it without mess everything up!

I'll try, many thanks

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[Locked] Install Glx Cairo Dock without Zeitgeist?
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21 May 2013 à 18:23


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